3/23/2008

Egg Hunts Make Me Smile Too!!!

91 comments:

Brooke said...

What a cute picture!

Yehudi01 said...

How was your Easter? Did you have an Easter-egg hunt? I bet the girls loved it!

The Frank Family said...

Yeah, Grandma hides eggs in our backyard and we all look for them. We've done it for the past 5 years or so and it gets more and more fun every year. I cooked ham (sorry) and steamed red potatoes seasoned with some fresh garlic and corn that we had picked last summer and frozen and my sister made green bean casserole and biscuits. We had a wonderful day together as a family. The girls always love any kind of get together and they especially love finding their eggs that Grandma hides.

WomanHonorThyself said...

sounds like a ball!

Yehudi01 said...

Awesome! Don't you feel at least a twinge of conviction when eating ham? :)

The Frank Family said...

Yeah, I feel convicted that I took up precious stomach room with ham instead of crispy bacon!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Yehudi01 said...

Oy! I don't really know what to say to that....I am completely speechless....

The Frank Family said...

Sorry, my friend. I meant to say -- Yeah, I knew that the right thing would have been to put down my ham and pick up a nice lamb chop insted. That would actually be a win - win situation there.

Yehudi01 said...

Let me ask you this....Since G-d made each animal, and He specifically said of the pig, "Look, I made that, trust Me....don't eat it," don't you think you should leave it alone? The same would apply to shellfish, catfish, clams, oysters, etc....what say you?

The Frank Family said...

Matthew 15:10-20

10Jesus called the crowd to him and said, "Listen and understand. 11What goes into a man's mouth does not make him 'unclean,' but what comes out of his mouth, that is what makes him 'unclean.' "

12Then the disciples came to him and asked, "Do you know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this?"

13He replied, "Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be pulled up by the roots. 14Leave them; they are blind guides.[e] If a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit."

15Peter said, "Explain the parable to us."

16"Are you still so dull?" Jesus asked them. 17"Don't you see that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and then out of the body? 18But the things that come out of the mouth come from the heart, and these make a man 'unclean.' 19For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander. 20These are what make a man 'unclean'; but eating with unwashed hands does not make him 'unclean.' "

Yehudi01 said...

So...be sure to wash your hands, Jason....but if you can show me where G-d says it's ok to eat pork, I'll concede the point! What you wrote has nothing to do with the food, but has everything to do with the issues of the heart.

The Frank Family said...

This is not to say that the laws you mentioned are not important but rather that passages like this one are the ones that I grew up under. There is another passage that says:

Romans 14:13-23

13Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in your brother's way. 14As one who is in the Lord Jesus, I am fully convinced that no food[b] is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for him it is unclean. 15If your brother is distressed because of what you eat, you are no longer acting in love. Do not by your eating destroy your brother for whom Christ died. 16Do not allow what you consider good to be spoken of as evil. 17For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit, 18because anyone who serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God and approved by men.

19Let us therefore make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual edification. 20Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean, but it is wrong for a man to eat anything that causes someone else to stumble. 21It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or to do anything else that will cause your brother to fall.

22So whatever you believe about these things keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the man who does not condemn himself by what he approves. 23But the man who has doubts is condemned if he eats, because his eating is not from faith; and everything that does not come from faith is sin.

I have faith that my eating ham does not make me unclean but you would have serious issues with eating ham and therefore it would certainly be a sin for you as it would go against your conscience. If my eating ham causes you to stumble I would gladly give it up, my friend.

Yehudi01 said...

Ok...in the name of holiness, and treating your body as something precious...created by G-d in His image...I challenge you to eat kosher for 60 days. You don't have to have a rabbi come to your home...I'm referring to kashrut in very loose terms. No pork, no shrimp, lobster, catfish, clams, calamarie, oysters.....for 60 days. That means pepperoni, sausage, country gravy....can you do it? I think it would mean a complete dietary overhaul for you!

The Frank Family said...

Right now I have lost 16 lbs. on a low-carb diet and so no bacon and no sausage and no pork steak would certainly be a strain on my dieting. I also just bought a hog and it's on it's way to the meat locker next week. I don't buy meat from the store I buy it from the field. I'll tell you what, I'll give it a go for the month of April. That will give me time to get the rest of the pork out of the fridge. If I commit to being gentile-kosher (nice phrase, eh?) then you must commit to holding me up to Hashem in prayer every morning and every evening and praying specifically for my diet and for my strength to eat kosher. Deal?

Yehudi01 said...

You have a deal, my friend! It was supposed to be 60 days....is that too long?

The Frank Family said...

Baby steps, Daniel, baby steps. :)

The Frank Family said...

I've gotta get to bed now. It's great to have you back blogging again!!!

Yehudi01 said...

It's great to be back...have a fantastic night!

Brooke said...

60 days without pepperoni pizza? I couldn't do it, man. ;)

Yehudi01 said...

LOL! You would feel like a new woman if you did! Try it!

The Hermit said...

Spiril cut ham! Yum! I'll eat anything that isn't nailed down, except snakes. I won't eat those, now.

The Frank Family said...

I've got a question for you Daniel. What about deer? Is venison kosher?

Brooke said...

Maybe you could leave us a link to basic kosher rules?

The Frank Family said...

Are you going to join me Brooke?

Brooke said...

Sure! I'll be on vacation from 4/19 to 4/26, so I don't know where I'll be eating during that time, but I'll definitely go from now until then. Of course, I could always start back up after that, too.

I'll give anything sane a try once. :)

Yehudi01 said...

Here is a terrific place to read about kashrut:
http://www.jewfaq.org/kashrut.htm

Read and enjoy! I'm excited for you guys...treat it as a Spiritual excersize, not just a dietary one and you will definately be blessed!

Yehudi01 said...

Good news, Jason.....venison is kosher! :)

Brooke said...

That doesn't sound too hard... With the exception of ham and perhaps turkey, I already eat that way. Meat and dairy together are just too heavy for me.

I do have one question: Is a pan/pot forever non-kosher once it's used?

If I were to fry an egg and wash the pan, is it okay to cook meat in it later, or must different pans/utensils be used?

Brooke said...

Not a big shellfish/frog/bug fan, either. :)

Yehudi01 said...

LOL, Brooke! I ate more than my fair share of bugs in the Army...I'm done with that! If you want to get technical, you need to keep dishes and utensils seperate. For your purposes, I don't see a need for you to get that technical unless you want to !

The Frank Family said...

I'm going to have to skip all the pot/utensil/pan idea as everything in my house has cooked meat. And I'll opt for the yes on the turkey question as april is the month of our spring turkey season. I'm a little iffy on the meat & dairy together too. With my low carb diet there is already such a small list of foods that I can eat and this will certainly cut those foods in half again.

Brooke said...

I'm in the same boat with the utensils.

You could always eat a lot of broccoli and cheese with chicken... ;)

I did the low carb diet for a while, too. I lost weight on it, but I now opt for a low-cal. It's a little less restrictive.

The Hermit said...

I saw on History Channel that locusts are kosher. You and Brooke could chow down on those puppies, now.

The Hermit said...

All kidding aside, I wonder if eating Kosher helps you keep from getting fat. I'm so sick of tuna fish I could croak. Same with chicken. If it's good for you, I've eaten so much of it I'm sick of it. I would kill for a hamburger, but I'm afraid it would kill me back.

Bar Kochba said...

Brooke, turkey is kosher.

And one can kasher pots and pans if they are not ceramic by immersing them in a mikveh (ritual bath) and by washing them at the highest temperature.

I don't know. Enjoy your ham. G-d created it.

The Frank Family said...

BK -- what does Jewish law have to say about hunting?

Big Daddy Jew said...

"How can a Jew kill a living thing without any benefit to anyone and engage in hunting merely to satisfy, "the enjoyable use of his time?" For according to the Talmud, it is permitted to slay wild animals only when they invade human settlements, but to pursue them into the woods, their own dwelling place, when they are not invading human habitations, is prohibited. Such pursuit simply means following the desires of one's heart.

In the case of one who needs to do this and who derives his livelihood from hunting, (e.g., one who deals with furs and skins), we would not say that hunting is necessarily cruel, as we slaughter cattle and birds and fish for the needs of man....But for one whose hunting has nothing to do with earning his livelihood, this is sheer cruelty."

-Responsa Nodeh B'Yehuda, on Yoreh Deah 2:10

Heinrich Heine (1797-1856), the great Jewish-born German writer, suggested that the Jewish aversion to such sport had much to do with the Jews' unhappy history: "My ancestors did not belong to the hunters as much as to the hunted, and the idea of attacking the descendants of those who were our comrades in misery goes against my grain." In other words, when a Jew sees an animal fleeing from a hunter wielding a gun, with whom do you think the Jew identifies?

The Frank Family said...

BDJ -- If it would be permissible to hunt for a livelihood then would it not also be permissible to hunt to provide food for your family? I am speaking of hunting so as to fill the freezer and not hunting for trophy or sport. In this instance would Jewish law also be against fishing as well?

Big Daddy Jew said...

Jason, Judaism's position is that it is not permissible to kill something needlessly, which to me means recreational hunting. Does your family depend on the meat you bring home from hunting for their survival? I'm not a rabbi, but I don't see anything wrong with fishing if you eat the fish, as opposed to mounting it on the wall. Then again, you're not Jewish, so you are welcome to do as you like! :)

Bar Kochba said...

BDJ- Neither are you!

Big Daddy Jew said...

You might be surprised...I'm as Jewish as you are.

The Frank Family said...

BK -- what is your opinion on hunting in order to provide meat for your family?

Eitan said...

Why? Because you have a Jewish mother? Your belief in whatever-you-want-to-call-him makes you a kofer, a Jew-non-grata so to speak. You are a pretender of the worst kind. You will not sway us with your kind words. It's deeds that matter.

Jason: why are you trying to keep kashrut? You're not Jewish. It's like me celebrating Easter. I don't understand which part of "you're not Jewish" Christians don't understand. First the Catholic Church persecuted us for centuries, than Luther appeared and did worse things. The founders of the Christian Church preached anti-Semitism. Are you going to ignore them?

Yehudi01 said...

Since every word and every mitzvah of the Torah is holy, I believe that observance of each mitzvah is an act of holiness, bringing us closer to Hashem. It's an act of intimacy...like a child cleaning the house for his parents without being told...just because he loves them. How does that touch his parents' hearts? I believe the same applies with us in relation to Hashem. If Jason wants to move closer to Hashem "one mitzvah at a time," I encourage it. Even if he does it for health purposes, who cares? There are many goyyim who eat kosher for their health's sake. Good for them...they recognize that Hashem has given us the most healthy diet...and they want to be healthy, too.

Eitan said...

OK, thanks for the explanation, Daniel. You realize kashrut isn't meant to be prevent us from eating unhealthy though, right?

The Frank Family said...

Eitan -- the founders of the Christian faith were Jews and never preached anti-semitism. They were lovers of the Jewish people. Please understand that catholicism does not equal Christianity. It is a religion unto itself and has little to nothing to do with Christianity. Do not hold what Luther did against Christianity but rather against Luther. In the same manner I have never held the crucifixion of Jesus against the Jewish people but rather understood it to be the events that needed to take place to bring salvation to me as a gentile.

To all -- I am not going to attempt to eat kosher during the month of April in order to be Jewish or to have better health but rather because I was challenged to by an honorable friend. As I resist my desire to eat pork, for instance, I will also use that as a reminder to thank God for my Jewish friends and pray for the peace of Jerusalem. I am a Christian through and through and am not attempting to place myself under Jewish law. Eating kosher will not make me any less of a Christian or more of a Jew just as BDJ's beliefs DO NOT AND WILL NEVER make him less of a Jew than you Daniel, and BK, and Eitan. I'm sorry if you feel that it does.

Eitan said...

Daniel: there are plenty of verses from the New Testament that will account for what I wrote concerning the founding fathers of the Christian Church but let's just put it this way: the early Christians wanted to legitimize their beliefs. They did so by distancing themselves from Judaism and preaching that G-d had made a new covenant; that this one was with all those who'd believe Jesus was the Messiah. Early Christians were looked down upon and scorned by religious Jews and all Jews were religious at those times. They felt a need to fight back. They did so by insulting our Scripture. As Christianity spread throughout the Roman Empire, Christians became openly hostile towards the Jews. The same exact process repeated itself when Muhammad tried in vain to get the Jewish community to follow him and later, when Martin Luther did the same.

Two questions: the founding father of the Protestant faith and the Lutheran Church was Martin Luther. There was Calvin and his followers the Calvinists. I realize that you're probably neither, but if you're a Protestant these peoples' thinking plays a role on your beliefs. They were both vicious anti-Semites. How is it that you as well as most American Christians don't hate the Jews?

The other question or perhaps point is that Big Daddy is Jewish because his mother is Jewish. Jesus was Jewish and the Talmud rebukes him like perhaps no one else. Karl Marx was Jewish and no, I don't want to have anything to do with Marxism. We suffered enough at the hands of the Soviets (good ridance to the bastards). So he can be Jewish all he wants. Does that make him a part of our community or a good person? NO!

Eitan said...

Whoops...that was for you, Jason. Sorry.

Yehudi01 said...

I thought you were railing at me, Eitan! I understand the history of the Christian church, and I detest it. However...and you, of all people, Eitan should understand this position: Just because Hitler and the Nazis were evil doesn't make all Germans today evil. The same is said of the arabs living in Israel today. There are a huge amount of Christians today who reject the teachings of Martin Luther and other anti-semites, (like our friend Jason), who stand as a friend with Israel...and we need to be grateful.

As for BDJ, though this is clearly the unpopular position...if he is ethnically Jewish, (has Jewish parents), then I consider him my brother. I don't align myself with him, but in my book he is a fellow Jew, and if he were in need, I would do all I could to help him...as I would for BK, Eitan, and KH. It's just how I am.

Bar Kochba said...

Jason, I realize that you are only trying to keep kosher just to see what it feels like. But for those who do not know, let me make this clear: A NON-JEW KEEPING KOSHER IS NEITHER GOOD NOR BAD. They have no obligation to keep kosher. Their only obligation is to the 7 Noahide Laws.

As for hunting, an animal must be slaughtered in a kosher way. An animal killed hunting therefore is not kosher. It is treifa.

(Eitan: It is a misconception that Jesus is mentionned in the Talmud. It speaks of two Yeishus, idolaters and false messiahs who existed centuries before Jesus supposedly did. They are the basis for the composite character of Jesus as well as many pagan saviour-gods. I do not view Jesus as a historical person but in the same vein as Mithras or Osiris--- myths.)

And just so everyone knows, an apikoros places himself outside of the Jewish community and it is permissible to hate him. Daniel, according to the Rambam, there are 14 ways in which a Jew may lose his place in Olam HaBa.

# 1) HaMinim-- Denier of One Infinite, non-physical G-d:

Includes a Jew who accepts the concept of a Ruler but maintains that there are two or more (think of the Trinity), a Jew who accepts that there is one Master of the world but maintains that He has a body or form (G-d as a man) or a Jew who worships an entity to serve as an intermediary between him and G-d (nobody goes to the Father except by way of me ie. JC)

# 2) HaApikorsim---

Includes a Jew who disputes the prophecy of Moshe. (Believing that JC supersedes him)

# 3) HaKofrim BaTorah---

Includes a Jew who denies the Torah's interpretations, the Oral Law or disputes the authority of its spokesmen (the rabbis are a brood of vipers) and a Jew who says that the Torah and mitzvot will be replaced (the "Brit Chadasha", NT).

Yehudi01 said...

I understand, BK, but it's just how I feel. I will admit to a double-standard, in that if Jew converts to Islam, I would have no stomach to even speak with him. Right or wrong, it's just where my heart is.

The Frank Family said...

Eitan -- here's your questions:

"Two questions: the founding father of the Protestant faith and the Lutheran Church was Martin Luther. There was Calvin and his followers the Calvinists. I realize that you're probably neither, but if you're a Protestant these peoples' thinking plays a role on your beliefs. They were both vicious anti-Semites. How is it that you as well as most American Christians don't hate the Jews?

The other question or perhaps point is that Big Daddy is Jewish because his mother is Jewish. Jesus was Jewish and the Talmud rebukes him like perhaps no one else. Karl Marx was Jewish and no, I don't want to have anything to do with Marxism. We suffered enough at the hands of the Soviets (good ridance to the bastards). So he can be Jewish all he wants. Does that make him a part of our community or a good person? NO!"

Question 1: The reason that I do not hate Jews, along with most American Christians, is because I am a follower of the teaching of Christ. Jesus loved the Jews and sought to bring them closer to God. He continually pointed everyone to the Father. He continually praised God. He weeped over Jerusalem. I do not follow the opinion or teaching of any man as all men are merely a creation and not a Creator. I do realize that the teachings of Luther or the teachings of Calvin have influenced the modern Christian church. What my Christianity boils down to though is not following my pastor or my church or popular Christian leaders but following Christ. Incidentally, that is also the reason that I have problems with understanding why Jews follow the teaching of their Rabbi or of historical rabbis like Rambam while calling me an idolater. I follow nobody but God alone.

Question 2: I do not believe that BDJ being a Jew speaks one way or the other to whether or not he is a good person. As to whether or not he is a part of your community I don't really think that matters. As a Jew he is one of God's chosen people and has a share in the inheritance given to the Jewish people by God. He is a part of God's community and that is to whom he will stand or fall.

Bar Kochba said...

Yehudi: Well, I saw your comment at a a Jewish convert to Islam's site and I felt that it was a bit hypocritical since many of the things that you said could be addressed to your wife, for example. And we all know what happens if somebody does that (not that its okay, of course). Islam is a lot closer to Judaism than Christianity.

Jason, it is also hypocritical for you to say that Catholicism is not Christianity but that BDJ's Christianity is Judaism. Double standard! He has set himself apart from the tzibur, the klal yisrael, the community and there has no share in our inheritance. His food is not kosher, his testimony cannot be accepted and he cannot be buried in a Jewish cemetary. As a goy, do not interfere in Jewish affairs. You have no place doing so.

The Frank Family said...

BK -- Even if you are right and it would be permissible to hate BDJ does that make hating him or expelling him from the Jewish community or even from Israel itself the BEST option? Is that really what God would want of you? I believe that in this Daniel has a far more mature and advisable opinion. From a spiritual standpoint should we be looking for what is permissible or what will get us by or should we be trying to live out our faith the best way we know how and the closest to how God has dealt with us? I have needed much mercy and grace and I hope to display an attitude of being willing to give mercy and grace to others as well.

The Frank Family said...

BK -- BDJ has never claimed Christianity and has opposed the idea that he may be a Christian. I do not view him as a Christian and I don't think that he views himself in that manner either. BDJ's Judaism is Judaism and he has never displayed Christianity but rather only a belief in the Jew Yeshua.

Bar Kochba said...

Jason, (and no offense to you, Daniel. I don't mean this in a bad way), Daniel's position is not based on Jewish law but on his emotions. He has a personal interest in this as his wife is a Messianic. Therefore, he CANNOT condemn them in harsh terms. I have no such qualms.

The Torah says repeatedly 'and you shall exterminate evil from your midst'. A city that strays to idolatry must be destroyed (though this never occured in actuality. It is only hypothetical). As such, Christian-wannabes and those who lead Jews astray cannot be tolerated. It is a mitzvah and a positive deed to hate such people as it is written (Psalm 139):

21 Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate Thee? And do not I strive with those that rise up against Thee?
22 I hate them with utmost hatred; I count them mine enemies.

Jason, what is the definition of a CHRISTian? Is it not a follower of CHRIST? That is not who BDJ worships? There is not Yeshua. That is a recently coined term by Christians to lead Jews astray. There is only Yeishu, yimach shemo vezichrono. You have no right to decide who is a Jew or not. Mind your own business!

The Frank Family said...

Yeshua is accepted by any and every historian on a historical level. There is more historical proof of Yeshua than there is of any prophet you could name. You also have no right to decide who is and who is not a Jew as you are not the Creator. God alone will decide and He has no need of your childish rantings against Messianic Jews who love the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. If you come here and attack a Jew in my presence and on my blog then YES it is my business as I will not allow anti-semitism on my blog whether it comes from a Christian or a Muslim or a Jew.

Yehudi01 said...

I never claimed that my opinion is right...it just is. The Messianics that I know through my wife are super-nice people...all Jews by birth, and all very passionate about their beliefs. They have never tried to debate me or engage me in conversation that was 'leading' towards their agendas. I told them that if they do that, they will never be allowed in our home again. I have no issue with them. Muslims, however are bent on the killing of Jews/Christians, and destroying Israel. It doesn't matter if they're an Asian muslim, black muslim, Shi'ia or Sunni...they all want the same thing because it's written in they're comic book..the Koran. I hate what they believe in and I hate what they stand for. Hate is a strong word, and perhaps G-d needs to soften my heart a bit, but I would rather beat one to death than allow him to harm a single Jew.

Big Daddy Jew said...

Let me begin by stating that I am not affiliated with Jews For Jesus. I probably need to define what I mean by "Messianic" since many consider Jews For Jesus a Messianic organization. I consider Jews For Jesus a Christian organization. Moishe Rosen, founder of Jews For Jesus, is a Christian missionary, schooled in a standard bible college and not trained as a rabbi. The Jews For Jesus organization has worked diligently teaching Jesus to the non-believing Jewish people, but it is Christianity being taught and not Messianic Judaism (in spite of JFJ efforts to make the two terms synonymous).

Second, it is never my intention to offend anyone. I have 2 Jewish parents, I have a Jewish education, and have been a practicing Jew for most of my adult life. I simply realized, Baruch Hashem, that we missed our Messiah, and that no matter how badly the early Christian church has stripped him of his Jewish-ness, Yeshua was a Torah-observant Jew who NEVER deviated from the Torah, but always pointed people toward a more observant lifestyle, and toward a closer, more personal relationship with Hashem. What's so terrible about that?
BK and Eitan, you may hate me...but I will forgive you and please know that I lift both of you up in prayer every single day without fail.

Eitan said...

And just how many of these Muslims have you met, Daniel?

Jason: it is BK who is mature in his opinions: a lot more so than his age would indicate and it is Daniel who as BK pointed out, loves his wife and wants us to accept Messianic Jews as he has. This can never happen though whether fortunate or unfortunate.

And hold on Jason...do you believe in the teachings of the New Testament? If not, what do you base your beliefs on? If you do, you cannot separate its teachings from its authors. That would be, to use, BK's terminoloty, hypocritical.

Shimshi: you realize that Messianic whatever-he-is is having a good time at our expense? I suggest you drop the Messianic subject and raise it again only if he shows up on your blog or any Jewish blog. Than we can whip him.

Big Daddy Jew said...

Whip me?? I may be Messianic, but I am no sissy...in fact, that kind of talk only makes you look like an idiot, Eitan. Since you are just now figuring out how to observe Shabbat, I hardly think you are in a position to "whip me."

The Frank Family said...

Eitan -- yes I believe the New Testament. Where have I separated its teachings and its authors? I don't understand your statement here. Please explain.

Yehudi01 said...

Eitan, O understand that after living in Israel for several years, you undoubtedly know many more muslims than I do. I know a handful. All one needs to do to understand them is watch the news. I'm sure many people thought the driver of the Yeshiva students was a really nice guy...until he decided to fulfill his religious mandate and kill as many Jews as possible, may his memory be accursed.

Yehudi01 said...

BDJ, that comment is completely uncalled for. Eitan's comment was inflammatory as well, but you're not going to make any friends talking like that.

The Frank Family said...

Daniel, to be fair, BDJ did not throw out those fighting words but rather Eitan said that they would whip him. Also, BDJ has endured people on several blogs saying that he is not even a Jew. Try calling me not a Christian or saying that I don't love God and see what kind of fight you'd be in for. I'm just sayin'!!! :)

Yehudi01 said...

LOL Jason! Time for a new post my friend!

Bar Kochba said...

BDJ, you can take your prayer and stick it. I pray for you every day too-- its called the Birkate HaMinim in the Shemoneh Esre. I'm sure that you're familiar with it. I actually do not even believe that you are a Jew or that you were raised in an observant home. Missionaries have been known to lie to convert Jews.

Jason, your insinuation that I am somehow an anti-semite is completely innapropriate and is only intended to incense and anger. Stay out of Jewish affairs! Stop pretending that Christianity is Judaism. (As for your argument that BDJ is a Jew and not a Christian, that has absolutely no validity. Just look at all of the comments. You and BDJ agree on most things, as you are both Christians. I respect that so why are you and BDJ in denial?)

Daniel, we lose credibility when we say that all Muslims are terrorists. There are moderate Muslims, just no moderate Islam.

Also, Jason, you said that Catholics are not Christian. How is that any different from saying that a Messianic is not a Jew?

Open Question: Is a Jew still a Jew if he believes in Buddha?

Yehudi01 said...

BK, how can you separate muslims from Islam? If there is no moderate Islam, then by default there is no moderate mulims. Just watch Fitna again if you forgot.

Let me answer your question with a question: If a man born in China to Chinese parents rejects Buddhism and believes in JC, is he still Chinese?

The Frank Family said...

Jews are a people group as well as a religion. There is not catholic people group. You choose to be catholic you are not born catholic. I chose Christianity I was not born a Christian. Many people are born Jews. Many others follow the Jewish faith AND realize that the Moshiach has come in the person of Yeshua. I was never waiting or looking for a Messiah but I found Jesus the Savior. BDJ found Yeshua the Messiah. Even though these are one in the same person it means entirely different things for BDJ compared with what He means to me. I had no way to God. Now I do.

The Frank Family said...

Daniel, it may be time for a new post indeed! I find it hilarious though that all of this discussion came from a post with one picture of smiling frogs with an Easter egg and no words at all. Sometimes controversy finds you no matter where you are!!!

Yehudi01 said...

LOL! Do a post on Hindus....

The Frank Family said...

A post on Hindus? Holy cow -- what a great idea....oops! Better not.

Yehudi01 said...

LOL!

Karin said...

It surely is incredible that you all can go on like this...over a frog! your right Jason. How are you and Kim doing? G-d bless you and the family Jason!
Shalom

Yehudi01 said...

Maybe you could blog about American Idol..... :)

The Frank Family said...

The true American idol is money, isn't it?!

Farmer John said...

I was wondering where that last egg got off to...

Yehudi01 said...

I think in the US it could be money...maybe power...who knows. Maybe world domination... :)Do you guys watch American Idol?

The Frank Family said...

Never.

Z said...

WOW, Jason! I've seen some wild threads come from a couple of comments, but from these two FROGS and an EGG??!! HA! Thanks..it's been a fascinating read. I'm going to go check Big Daddy Jew, I'm hoping for a rip roarin' response to the guy there who challenged him on Isaiah. NOBODY has tried? And even I had one great point in disagreement with the guy!

Yehudi01 said...

My friend, your life will be tremendously enriched by watching American Idol....how about Hell's Kitchen?

Jungle Mom said...

Miss a few days and you guys have a party.
Can I just reiterate that all us are not Protestant...or Catholic.
About the kosher thing... I am wondering about a few things I have eaten in the jungle, of necessity:
frogs
earth worms
termites
Capybera ( largest rodent)
Macaws
grub worms
and a few others I best not mention!
I am just curious, is it ok to eat such things if it is all there is available?
And the pot thing...what if I only traveled with ONE pot?
( I'm really glad I'm not Jewish right now! I think I'd be on my way to hell for sure...)

Yehudi01 said...

JM, LOL! None of those things are kosher. I guess it is a good thing you're not Jewish, (not that we wouldn't love to have you!)

The Frank Family said...

Hey now, Jungle Mom is ours!!! As if we could possess anything -- what a silly thought! The earth is God's and all that is in it. We are so fortunate to be the possessions of the One who is able to do more than all we could ask or imagine!!!

Jungle Mom said...

So...monkey meat is probably not on the list either, huh? (Which makes good sausage, by the way!)

EDGE said...

I have a friend who is horrified by frogs. Think I'll send her this picture ;O)

Bar Kochba said...

Jason, about your ridiculous comment at my place:

Psalm 1

1 Happy is the man that hath not walked in the counsel of the wicked, {N}
nor stood in the way of sinners, nor sat in the seat of the scornful.
2 But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in His law doth he meditate day and night.
3 And he shall be like a tree planted by streams of water, {N}
that bringeth forth its fruit in its season, and whose leaf doth not wither; and in whatsoever he doeth he shall prosper.
4 Not so the wicked; but they are like the chaff which the wind driveth away.
5 Therefore the wicked shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.
6 For the LORD regardeth the way of the righteous; but the way of the wicked shall perish. {P}

My theology? Do you mean Judaism? You have done nothing but slander the Torah and Judaism. I didn't ban you but if you cannot respect out faith and abide by my anti-missionizing rules, maybe your self-imposed exile isn't bad.

This is goodbye until you learn some respect and common courtesy. HaShem bless you!

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