2/19/2009

Who Should Really Be Upset?

This New York Post CHIMP comic has......


this New York CHUMP upset but......


if anyone should be upset it should be........

for being blamed for the most wasteful and useless piece of legislation in years.

26 comments:

Chuck said...

I thought this cartoon was kind of stupid, but the cartoonists has the comfort of knowing that with Sharpton around, stupidity has a whole different level

friend of the right said...

Cartoon is ridiculously dumb. I mean, the New York Post is a trashy rag, but COME ON. I don't think Sharpton's reaction is uncalled for...you need to nip this kind of meta-racism crap in the bud.

Z said...

Um. Doesn't ANYBODY remember the Bush=Chimp pictures?
Isn't THAT racism, friend of the right?

Pops, check out the blog.......great minds think alike!

Brooke said...

Amen, Z!!!

Hell, Ducky said it all the time...

M.A. said...

Can someone please tell me how this chimp is even a reference to Obama? He didn't write the stimulus bill, he just signed it.

I don't automatically think this is racism. Maybe it was on some level, but I don't think it's fair for us to ASSUME that it's racist.

Frankly, the cartoon is merely connecting two completely ridiculous recent events, which political cartoonists do all the time.

friend of the right said...

If you think about it, there are plenty of clues that it's supposed to represent Obama:

- Obama is a black man and "monkey" is a well-known racial slur against black people.
- Obama was the main broker of the stimulus bill, and has been quite vocal in promoting it publicly. As a result, the package is widely referred to in the media as "Obama's stimulus plan", despite the fact that authoring bills is the job of the legislature and not the president.
- The shooters in the cartoon are police officers, and it is well-known that minorities and especially African-Americans are the most common victims of police brutality. Well-publicized statistics show that during the mid-late '90s, as high as 90% of individuals shot by police in NYC were minorities, especially blacks.
- Since before the election, there has been widespread speculation abut the possibility of an assassination attempt on Obama and at least one such attempt is publicly known to have been thwarted in progress.

The "Bush/Chimp RACIST comparison" holds nowhere near the same amount of water, as there is obviously not the same entrenched racist connotation behind it. There just ISN'T. You call your average white man in America a gorilla, and he might be offended, but he's not going to take it as a racist attack. You call your average black man in America the same thing, and chances are he'll assume you're being racially abusive.

M.A. said...

I can understand what you are saying, but I think you are reaching.

"Obama is a black man and "monkey" is a well-known racial slur against black people."

Maybe you recall that a monkey was recently shot by police officers. The monkey in the comic has absolutely no likeness to Obama whatsoever. Sorry, but you're making an assumption here.

"Obama was the main broker of the stimulus bill"

...but he didn't write it. That is what the comic says, NOT "we'll have to find someone else to broker the next stimulus bill"

"minorities and especially African-Americans are the most common victims of police brutality."

The comic does not include an African-American, it includes a monkey. There is no reference to the monkey representing a black man. Maybe you forgot, but a chaotic monkey was recently shot by police officers.

"Since before the election, there has been widespread speculation abut the possibility of an assassination attempt on Obama"

I really don't see what this has to do with a comic that depicts two police officers shooting a monkey.

Why can't this just be a comic linking two recent outrageous stories....a crazy, out of control monkey and a crazy, out of control spending bill?

Yehudi said...

I think Al Sharpton is dying for an opportunity to get his ugly mug back in the front of the cameras. I'm not inclined to give him even 5 minutes of my life that I'll never get back again.

Papa Frank said...

This is political satire pure and simple without even a hint of racism. The monkeys are in control of the purse strings now. And that has nothing to do with Obama and everything to do with people like Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, and Barney Frank. Peddle your BS somewhere else, FOTR.

Steve Harkonnen said...

Yep.

This is why I am going to be pressing on with my "Obama looks like a chimp" campaign.

I don't know about you guys, but I am lovin' every second of this.

Thank God for idiots like Al Sharpton. He is a mental giant we should all look up to.

Ducky's here said...

I think it's resoundingly clear why suggesting that an african american is a monkey is possibly racist and why suggesting that a career failure of a human being with 1/2 the brains of a litterbox is a monkey is not racist, but a comment on his intelligence.

Actually, I think it's more a slight on chimps.

but, you are clear, aren't you, why suggesting a black person is a monkey is racist, and calling a white person a monkey isn't.

Aren't you? If not, just fake it.

Papa Frank said...

Ducky -- what does this comic have to do with Obama? He was hands off on the stimulus bill so that when it tanks miserably, as it is sure to do, he can blame Pelosi.

The Hermit said...

Well, Sharpton and his ilk, at least, are glad to see the cartoon because it keeps them in business. If it weren't for something of this nature, he'd have to invent something else. Remember Tawana and the evil white rapists?

The Hermit said...

Well, Sharpton and his ilk, at least, are glad to see the cartoon because it keeps them in business. If it weren't for something of this nature, he'd have to invent something else. Remember Tawana and the evil white rapists?

Ducky's here said...

Papa, it's a little naive not to think that Americans see this as Obama's bill.

He's been out there selling it hard enough.

... it's just bad judgment to associate a shooting with the source of the stimulus bill. It carries a message. Bad judgment.

Is it racist? No, but it sure does give demigods like Sharpton a reason to get out there. Just real dumb.

cube said...

I think the cartoon gives professional race baiters like Sharpton something to be outraged about and he will milk it until it benefits him in the end.

I know the chimp isn't Obama, but after Sharpton is through, many people will be convinced that it is.

I'm against any kind of media creation, whether cartoon, art, movie, book, etc., that insinuates the shooting of any president... you know, like the movie that showed the fictional assassination of then President Bush.

Yeah, the left didn't think there was anything wrong with that stinker of a movie. Cries of free speech, don't go see it, change the channel were heard throughout the land.

Papa Frank said...

I'm glad to see that you can admit it's not racist. Sharpton is just struggling to find a reason to think he's relevant anymore, not that he ever was. I don't see this cartoon as linking shooting those responsible for the stimulus bill. I see it as satire on the cops shooting a chimp and a hilarious comment on the idiocy of the writers of the stimulus. Obama's downfall will not come due to the strength of conservatives (which it pains me greatly to admit) but rather as a result of him letting the primates in congress have their way with legislation that is increasing our debt faster than any war ever fought. His poll numbers are beginning to unravel even now and if he does not stand up to lunatics like Pelosi and Barney Frank and Harry Reid the good American people will drop him just as fast as they held him up and spread palm leaves on his path.

Yehudi said...

This is the million-dollar question, Jason, but I am really curious to know what you think we need to do to fix our economy if the stimulus bill isn't the answer. I just don't know.

Papa Frank said...

Daniel, here's my opinion. Let's take just one example of how I think the government is working backwards and prolonging the poor economy. Look at the government solution of throwing billions of dollars at the car companies. The fact that the car companies are short on cash is NOT the problem. If we continue to GIVE them money we have not done a single thing to helping them out. We have only made it possible for them to keep SOME people employed. As you can see they already are now back for more money. The problem is NOT them being short on cash the problem IS them being short on customers to purchase their wares. For the same amount of money as we have given them, if not less, we could offer a $10,000 tax break on anyone purchasing a new vehicle from the American companies. People would go out in droves and purchase new vehicles. The American people THEMSELVES would be helped out. The car companies would not only have IMMEDIATE income but ONGOING income for 4-6 years depending on the loans. During this time the car companies could make steps to streamline their businesses and time to kick the unions out of their businesses unless they were willing to negotiate realistic pay and realistic benefits for going into the future. By dealing with the problem this way you have got twice the bang for your buck. You have pumped money into an industry in need of business AND you have given the common American a much needed tax break. This is how the government SHOULD be thinking. What can we do to help our people first and foremost and secondarily how can we make that benefit American business as well.

Yehudi said...

I agree 100%. Ducky, would you agree with what PF just said?

Papa Frank said...

A set-up like the one I described here gives relief to the car companies but ALSO puts a great deal of pressure on them. They must still compete with eachother for the number of people who will purchase a vehicle. They must keep people employed in order to produce the cars to sell. They must keep dealerships open in order to compete in every market across the country. Their portion of the available money is something that they must EARN. The money would be out there but they would have to be innovative in order to insure that they got the lion share of it. All of these things would work together to insure that the American people not only got a good deal but that they got a good deal that also served to provide jobs for their fellow Americans. The car companies are kept "honest" in a sense and the government didn't just hand out free money to big business.

Yehudi said...

You're pretty smart, Jason, but there are people with advanced degrees in Micro/Macro Economics from places like Harvard running this country..why do you think they haven't thought of this? It seems like such an easy fix...relatively-speaking, of course.

Pasadena Closet Conservative said...

The thing about Hope and Change is that the race-baiters will always continue to play that lovable race card. Get on the Hope and Change bandwagon? Nah. There's no money in it.

friend of the right said...

White people are the only ones (in contemporary American society) who have the luxury of telling those who do feel the stigma of racism to "just get over yourself and quit whining, so I won't have to feel guilty about it."

Papa Frank said...

And you leftards are the only racists left.

Elmers Brother said...

it's just a way to shut down any criticism of the President. A way to quiet the opposition.

duhkkky's confuses me...I believe on Z's blog he said that the rest of us were useless sophist or dumb if we didn't see the cartoon comparing a black man to a chimp.

If you are incapable of seeing the difference between the Chucklenuts pics and comparing a black man to a chimp then you are either being a useless sophist or you're dumb.