4/19/2008

Heartbroken!

If this man here is to blame............



.........why are these women the ones to be stripped of their children?



This is certainly an intricate situation but the thought of me being without my children saddens me to the point of tears. There will be blame enough to go around to all parties but why must the children be the fulcrum on which the parties exert force on one another? Even though it is unclear who holds the roll of "guilty" it is crystal clear that the children bear the brunt of the punishment.

13 comments:

nanc said...

it "appears" these women may be complicit in what's happened to many of the younger women - they, themselves in some cases, being victims in their own pasts.

vicious circle, frank family.

*:[

Papa Frank said...

I don't suppose that all of these women are guiltless. I don't mean to portray that but the children are certainly not to blame and they are the ones who have been imprisoned, so to speak. I just feel for everyone involved. I watched Larry King interview three of the women and was on the edge of tears throughout the interview. Vicious cycle, indeed.

mommyof7 (2inheaven) said...

I totally feel for those moms and children. The moms I think are so brain washed that they don't realize what their children have lived through was and is wrong. But your right the children are the ones being punished. I am keeping them in my prayers!!
I am a friend of Pinky's and wanted to check out your blog and say hi. I too have twins. I have 4 year old boy twins. I also have a almost 6 year old boy, a 2 year old little girl and a 7 1/2 month old little boy.
Well, just wanted to stop by and say hi.
Mommy of 5

Papa Frank said...

Welcome mommyof5! Please make yourself at home, we're all friends here. It's great to meet another parent of twins. Our girls are 4 now but will turn 5 in just three weeks. We get run tired with just our two girls and so I can only imagine the work you do. My hat's off to you.

The Merry Widow said...

Nanc's right(am I saying that?)it is a vicious circle. And jeffers' grandfather started this cycle of misery.
I only hope that jeffers and the men who supported him are punished for what they have perpetuated.
Their consciences are so seared they have no pity for their victims.
And because this has been going on for 4+ generations...there is a lot of dysfunction and perversion to cut through.
And yes, it is the children who will pay the price for being torn out.
But it is like the 70 yr. old man who's broken leg never set 50 yrs. ago, he has been in agony for 50 yrs.
For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction, and when the reaction catches up to the action, the disconnect is harsh.
But the truth is, after 4+ generations HOW MUCH OF A REACTION CAN WE EXPECT?
There is an awful lot of "action" to react too!
Good morning, G*D bless and Maranatha!

tmw

Anonymous said...

Not every problem has a 'good' solution. Every heroes route must pass between Scylla and Charybdis. But only through attempting the passage, can a nobler goal be accomplished.

Rita Loca said...

I know it is hard to understand that some women are brainwashed into believing this life style is normal. I remember wondering how the indian women could accept to be in polygamist marriages but it is all they know and it scares them to change. They raise their children to continue in the same way.

Anonymous said...

I pray that the children will learn discernement and know who to trust from here on out. I don't know if it's too late for them to reclaim their childhood(s), but they should be given the chance.
It's a sick world...come soon, Lord!

The Merry Widow said...

We are dealing with fallen people in a fallen world...often times the results are messy and hurtful.
This is an ugly and unhappy situation, BUT the Truth is that LDS has never rejected polygamy in the afterlife...therefore, it left the door open to those who clung to the early teachings of Joseph Smith and Brigham Young(who had 27+ wives himself).
The sin was started by joseph smith and has been perpetuated for nearly 200 years.
The sin was that of smith and the fools who followed him, they have perpetuated and spawned more sin...the results are what G*D has always warned about; misery, loss, separation, shame and death.
This is why Jesus came, to break the cycle...but LDS and FLDS have rejected G*D's Way, embraced a man's lies(smith was a known con man!)and the results are being paraded in our faces every day.
Yes, I pity the mothers and children, but they were caught in a pit of Hell, and were spreading it to future generations.
Remember that G*D said that HIS favor was on those who followed HIM for a thousand generations, but that willful sinners would only see 4 generations...HE stops it before it gets ingrained too far...except where there has been a blanket acceptance of lies, and even they pay a terrible price! Look at mohammadins...

tmw

Rita Loca said...

I would hope that some of the mothers might be willing to leave the cult in order to stay with their children.

Z said...

they are so brainwashed and insular that an ex member said that they have an accent when they speak that's peculiar only to their group. Should these children have been left with these people because they believe a certain way, that they think what they do is right, or do those people have to live by State/Fed laws? Two friends of mine are bitter because they feel America has overstepped her bounds and is persecuting people just for their religious beliefs! If ONE child was forced to have sex with an older man and have his child, all the children had to be taken just in case. The judge said there is "plenty of evidence" that there has been abuse.
Still, I can't imagine how stunned these naive, protected children are not to have their mothers with them. It's a tragedy all the way around.

Didn't many of the women take this opportunity to stay away from the compound? Something must be strange inside.

Papa Frank said...

Things like this ought not happen.

The Merry Widow said...

Of course they aren't! But in this fallen world, do we have the luxury of a small child who cries out, "IT'S NOT FAIR!"
It's not, but that is the nature of the sin nature, it takes what should be and twists and perverts it into an irrecognizable mess!
We do grope through a fog of what is the best course.
No, we must be adults and deal with what is...

tmw